Island View Casino Win Loss Statement

coilman

May 25, 2017  In over 50 years of extensive travel, the Island View Casino Resort is the worst place I have ever stayed. Check in was a laborious 15 minute process - even though we had reservations. The valet service to bring our bags to the room took over 2 hours on one occasion and there was food on the cart which sat in the heat the entire time. Jun 12, 2013  I report the same as you, but I don't bother looking at Win/Loss statements as they are an admitted 'best guess' by the casino that depends on how closely the pit boss watched your buy in, your color up, how many chips you tip the cocktail waitress or use to buy cigs, any chips you pocketed (intentionally or not) etc. Plus I play unrated almost.

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First time for me having to file a U S tax return after a hitting three taxable jackpots during my visits last year.
My first try at getting my ITIN got me a rejection letter with a try again note basically.... don't tell you why it was rejected just that it was. Got the link and some pointers from one of the board members on how to go about getting this all done. Will be back in Windsor beginning of next month so plans are to visit the IRS office in Detroit with all my paperwork completed and run it by them before sending it in. As they don't send anything back when its rejected I will need to get another copy of my passport done .
Caesars was very easy to obtain the WIN /LOSS statement online
A request sent to PALMS even without my card number got me my WIN / LOSS statement in 24 hrs great customer service
South Point I used the online request link and will wait for the snail mail to arrive ...in this day and age what's wrong with a email ?
Tropicana got a fax request sent today for my WIN / LOSS statement ( included a email address but fully expect to be waiting on snail mail delivery)
Hopefully all arrive before the end of the month so I can get this moving along. They sure put up a lot of hoops to jump thru for us to get OUR money back but its one of those things I will work on just to say I did it myself. Some businesses here will do it for you for a FEE.... which to me would work out to about .$300-400 for this years return and ITIN. So nice of them isn't it.
Any other Canadians done this is recent years with success?
AcesAndEights
Why do you need a win/loss statement? Don't you just need all of your W2-Gs?

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I am not a machine player so I could be off base here, but my understanding of your situation is that you hit some taxable jackpots (>$1200), they withheld money, and you need to apply with your ITIN and whatever to get it back. I don't see how the win/loss statement figures in.
Regardless, I wish you luck. Damn the man!
'So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust.' -ontariodealer
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MrV

Why do you need a win/loss statement? ... I don't see how the win/loss statement figures in.


I request them and use them when preparing my itemized tax return.
The Win / Loss numbers, collectively, include amounts reported on W-2Gs; I add the total wins up and then the total losses.
So far the reported win has not exceeded the yearly loss.
W/Ls seem a reasonably defensible way to calculate your wins and losses, short of logging every bet at every machine and table game as the IRS might prefer.
It's Real World info.
Report the win on page one of the 1040, and deduct the (same amount) loss on schedule A.
So far, so good.
'What, me worry?'
coilman
I need the ITIN to file a tax return....the W 2s (is that what they are called that show my winnings and taxes with held?) I already have...that's my only earnings in the US of A
The WIN/LOSS statements to be able to show I really didn't win what they taxed me on
$2400 refund will fund my trip this year ..... if we complete the obstacle course they have setup
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AcesAndEights

I request them and use them when preparing my itemized tax return.
The Win / Loss numbers, collectively, include amounts reported on W-2Gs; I add the total wins up and then the total losses.
So far the reported win has not exceeded the yearly loss.
W/Ls seem a reasonably defensible way to calculate your wins and losses, short of logging every bet at every machine and table game as the IRS might prefer.
It's Real World info.
Report the win on page one of the 1040, and deduct the (same amount) loss on schedule A.
So far, so good.


I report the same as you, but I don't bother looking at Win/Loss statements as they are an admitted 'best guess' by the casino that depends on how closely the pit boss watched your buy in, your color up, how many chips you tip the cocktail waitress or use to buy cigs, any chips you pocketed (intentionally or not) etc. Plus I play unrated almost all the time at BJ, so no luck there. I use my gambling spreadsheet for all of the numbers.
Anyway, I agree with your statement that it is 'reasonably defensible.' Just know that if you get audited, they will want a 'gambling diary' and the win/loss statement might be looked at as supporting information, but doubtful as a primary source. I have never been audited, but this has been my conclusion based on multiple sources. There's another long thread on this somewhere.
Sorry to derail your thread, coilman!
'So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust.' -ontariodealer
AcesAndEights

I need the ITIN to file a tax return....the W 2s (is that what they are called that show my winnings and taxes with held?) I already have...that's my only earnings in the US of A
The WIN/LOSS statements to be able to show I really didn't win what they taxed me on
$2400 refund will fund my trip this year ..... if we complete the obstacle course they have setup


I still don't understand. As I understand it, since you aren't a US citizen, the casino withholds taxes on big jackpots (for which you have W2-G showing each withholding). This is because you don't have an SSN so they want the money NOW. (If you are a citizen with an SSN, they will give you all the money but it will be tracked on your return.)
On other wins (i.e. small machine wins or table game wins), the casino doesn't withhold taxes.
Your objective is to get back the money that was withheld from you. For that you need an ITIN. Why does it matter what other income (or loss) you had gambling? It's not taxable, and it wasn't taxed.
Sorry if my tone is coming across as confrontational, I am not trying to pick a fight but am legitimately curious about how this all works.
'So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust.' -ontariodealer
MrV


Anyway, I agree with your statement that it is 'reasonably defensible.' Just know that if you get audited, they will want a 'gambling diary'

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I keep that too ... sort of.
At the end of every trip, I write the name of the casino and the total I won or lost there every day as to each of my two games: craps and slots.
'What, me worry?'
DRich

Why does it matter what other income (or loss) you had gambling? It's not taxable, and it wasn't taxed.


All gambling income is taxable. Every single dollar you win is taxable. Wins are not tax exempt because they don't force you to account for them. You are supposed to self report even a single $1 won in the casino.

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MonkeyMonkey


W/Ls seem a reasonably defensible way to calculate your wins and losses, short of logging every bet at every machine and table game as the IRS might prefer.
It's Real World info.
Report the win on page one of the 1040, and deduct the (same amount) loss on schedule A.

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Interestingly enough I had to go to the IRS the other day on unrelated issues, but while there I asked about what they would consider to be legitimate documentation of gambling losses and their answer was a w/l report from the casino(s). I asked, what about a log the player keeps themselves, the answer was along the lines of, 'Well, you could try that and it would be up to the individual examiner to determine if they would accept it or not, but a w/l report is the only guarantee.'

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So be sure to turn in those players cards and make sure the floor supervisor gets all your buy-ins and tracks your average bet.
coilman
Yeah the things you learn AFTER THE FACT. I doubt any Canadian is keeping a diary if they have never filed a return before
This year if and when I go I will keep track of it all..... which most likely will mean I will not hit a handpay

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